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CNG to benefit from new mileage rules, state officials say

Tulsa World -- Oklahoma Energy Secretary Mike Ming is pleased with recent federal fuel efficiency standards in the wake of concerns that the rules would hamper efforts to convert state fleets to compressed natural gas.The White House this week announced Corporate Average Fuel Economy standards that would increase the fuel economy equivalent of 54.4 mpg for cars and light-duty trucks by model year 2025.Advocates argue the rules will reduce dependence on foreign oil, lower emissions and reduce fuel costs for drivers.Oklahoma is among 22 states seeking proposals to help convert state fleets to natural gas.

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purplebears Champion Author Milwaukee Posts:9,060 Points:1,165,680 Joined:May 2009	Message Posted: Sep 2, 2012 1:14:34 AM Ignore purplebears Report Abuse It seems that quite a few people write-off NG as a viable option. NG is cheaper, more prevalent, burns cleaner and is abundantly produced right here in the US. No imports are needed and the production process would support American jobs. Sure, it will take time and effort to convert to NG but it is still a much better option than being held captive to foreign oil. Approximately 25% of the cost each American pays at the pump goes directly to OPEC, Venezuela (Chavez) and even Russia. The average gas-pumper doesn’t think about the fact that he/she is giving $500-$1000 per year to support these “unfriendly” nations. Another 10% of the price heads north to our friends in Canada, but it still means the money leaves the country. Hopefully our schools can still teach people to think for themselves. The choices are obvious but it takes time to “unwash” the brains of some of those we live with. It simply makes sense to move forward towards the use of natural gas or electric vehicles. Most residential properties already have either natural gas, electricity or both already piped or wired to the buildings. In most cases, contractors could extend the natural gas lines/electric chargers to garages or parking structures for nominal costs. The convenience of refueling your vehicle at home would become the new normal thing to do. The downside would be the loss of many gas stations and convenience stores. But in reality is that really a loss?
SammyAdams Champion Author Tallahassee Posts:3,072 Points:796,655 Joined:Nov 2010	Message Posted: Sep 1, 2012 4:34:40 PM Ignore SammyAdams Report Abuse Rather than cowering before the lawless and unconstitutional EPA, Governors and state legislatures should be banding together in order to "nullify" any illegal (and unconstitutional) acts by the Federal government and their agencies. All that they need to do is inform the FED that these illegal and lawless edicts will NOT be enforced withing their state boundaries and that any attempt by those who would try to enforce these unconstitutional acts would be subject to prosecution and, if convicted, incarceration and fines BIG TIME. Go to the TenthAmendmentCenter.com to learn how many states are passing State legislation on interposition (Nullification) and how YOU can become involved in this Patriotic effort.
qwerty17 Champion Author New Jersey Posts:3,660 Points:1,120,375 Joined:Oct 2009	Message Posted: Sep 1, 2012 11:50:54 AM Ignore qwerty17 Report Abuse bring it on.
sljbc475 Champion Author Tucson Posts:4,235 Points:875,300 Joined:Dec 2010	Message Posted: Sep 1, 2012 11:03:02 AM Ignore sljbc475 Report Abuse Time for a lot of states to convert their fleets to CNG.
ktyson13 Champion Author Maryland Posts:1,546 Points:399,350 Joined:Aug 2010	Message Posted: Sep 1, 2012 10:20:03 AM Ignore ktyson13 Report Abuse im sure the govmt will figure out how to give away money for this!
crep1291 Champion Author Ottawa Posts:2,588 Points:481,575 Joined:Dec 2010	Message Posted: Sep 1, 2012 8:16:18 AM Ignore crep1291 Report Abuse "We need more CNG stations. " They will come. But I suspect a lot of people who already have NG at home will just install compressors and avoid the CNG stations altogether. Gas station owners may be reluctant to install facilities for CNG under such conditions.
SUNOIL Champion Author Toledo Posts:5,260 Points:1,928,930 Joined:Jul 2007	Message Posted: Sep 1, 2012 7:15:12 AM Ignore SUNOIL Report Abuse We have a lot of it right now.
Agarre Champion Author Richmond Posts:1,335 Points:263,785 Joined:Feb 2012	Message Posted: Sep 1, 2012 7:13:06 AM Ignore Agarre Report Abuse lets see
52MPG Champion Author Dayton Posts:7,278 Points:1,745,625 Joined:Apr 2006	Message Posted: Sep 1, 2012 6:51:33 AM Ignore 52MPG Report Abuse At some point magnetic power will come into play.
A2J Champion Author Richmond Posts:3,090 Points:605,875 Joined:Aug 2011	Message Posted: Sep 1, 2012 6:29:37 AM Ignore A2J Report Abuse so ?
Bruno44 Champion Author Texas Posts:7,095 Points:1,772,195 Joined:Sep 2007	Message Posted: Sep 1, 2012 4:42:17 AM Ignore Bruno44 Report Abuse If it works out, Big Govt will tax the heck out of it.
nfldude Champion Author San Diego Posts:3,892 Points:449,500 Joined:Dec 2011	Message Posted: Sep 1, 2012 2:40:42 AM Ignore nfldude Report Abuse Are highway taxes added to CNG fueling?
rollercoaster All-Star Author Hartford Posts:502 Points:567,760 Joined:Jul 2008	Message Posted: Sep 1, 2012 2:00:18 AM Ignore rollercoaster Report Abuse no it's great supporting Mitt Romney,it's a positive factor into this country unlike the douchbag that's in office now!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
snky2k Champion Author Indianapolis Posts:1,413 Points:307,240 Joined:Mar 2012	Message Posted: Sep 1, 2012 1:10:18 AM Ignore snky2k Report Abuse Here's my impression of most people on this forum - no matter the topic: "Obama, Obama, Obama, Obama......" It must really suck having to support Mitt Romney.
fuel2use Champion Author Seattle Posts:3,499 Points:735,345 Joined:Dec 2010	Message Posted: Sep 1, 2012 1:01:27 AM Ignore fuel2use Report Abuse Its a gas.
krobp46 Champion Author Milwaukee Posts:2,731 Points:545,095 Joined:Sep 2011	Message Posted: Sep 1, 2012 12:54:46 AM Ignore krobp46 Report Abuse What we see happening here are the ideas of Obama and Steven Chu coming into fruitition. They are getting their wish to make cars too expensive for most people to own, and thereby making them better able to afford government (public) transportation. Obama's Socialist ideas become more apparent every day
silverfoxv65 Champion Author Michigan Posts:4,500 Points:1,234,050 Joined:Sep 2009	Message Posted: Sep 1, 2012 12:42:33 AM Ignore silverfoxv65 Report Abuse Shut it all down!
gasandgoAL Champion Author Alabama Posts:7,166 Points:1,592,590 Joined:Sep 2008	Message Posted: Sep 1, 2012 12:42:06 AM Ignore gasandgoAL Report Abuse go for it
jwalkerh Champion Author Louisiana Posts:6,145 Points:1,369,580 Joined:Oct 2008	Message Posted: Sep 1, 2012 12:32:59 AM Ignore jwalkerh Report Abuse This is one alternative.
HA4CNN Champion Author Toronto Posts:5,639 Points:1,546,415 Joined:Dec 2006	Message Posted: Sep 1, 2012 12:32:39 AM Ignore HA4CNN Report Abuse They need to make it happen much sooner.
Mowerman08 Champion Author Milwaukee Posts:4,775 Points:1,221,020 Joined:Aug 2008	Message Posted: Sep 1, 2012 12:30:57 AM Ignore Mowerman08 Report Abuse The OUT OF CONTROL EPA regulating to death.
ItisAJeepThing Champion Author Tucson Posts:19,770 Points:2,154,505 Joined:Oct 2006	Message Posted: Sep 1, 2012 12:30:52 AM Ignore ItisAJeepThing Report Abuse CNG is the way that we should be going. America could easily become energy independent.
mfeldstein Champion Author Ottawa Posts:8,191 Points:1,934,480 Joined:Feb 2007	Message Posted: Sep 1, 2012 12:30:34 AM Ignore mfeldstein Report Abuse Natural gas extraction is environmentally destructive.
Prodaddy Champion Author Houston Posts:8,395 Points:1,898,110 Joined:May 2007	Message Posted: Sep 1, 2012 12:28:28 AM Ignore Prodaddy Report Abuse CNG is the best kept secret yet
Hobby001 Champion Author Michigan Posts:5,093 Points:1,186,440 Joined:Jul 2007	Message Posted: Sep 1, 2012 12:28:04 AM Ignore Hobby001 Report Abuse The added weight for ASTM pressure vessels for CNG will cause losses in MPG.
02SilverStroke Champion Author Dallas Posts:2,016 Points:1,346,855 Joined:Aug 2005	Message Posted: Sep 1, 2012 12:23:56 AM Ignore 02SilverStroke Report Abuse We need more CNG stations.
BobD2009 Champion Author Long Island Posts:7,009 Points:1,243,785 Joined:Apr 2009	Message Posted: Sep 1, 2012 12:22:44 AM Ignore BobD2009 Report Abuse Well that's surprisingly good news.
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Zonk Champion Author Michigan Posts:6,501 Points:2,106,015 Joined:Oct 2005	Message Posted: Sep 1, 2012 12:16:05 AM Ignore Zonk Report Abuse CNG is a good fuel.
djgunrunner Champion Author Salt Lake City Posts:10,121 Points:2,352,605 Joined:Apr 2005	Message Posted: Aug 31, 2012 11:50:44 PM Ignore djgunrunner Report Abuse If all of these obama underlings support Natural Gas then what excuse does obama have for not supporting it? With a push from obama Government Motors and Chrysler would be selling Natural Gas bi fuel cars, not just trucks but cars for everyone. So what is the real reason obama has for not supporting Natural Gas
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ShadowACE Champion Author Boston Posts:9,038 Points:2,153,575 Joined:Jun 2006	Message Posted: Aug 31, 2012 11:34:41 PM Ignore ShadowACE Report Abuse BeanoLI asks: "hould I believe this article ?" As one of our former Presidents said: "Trust (Believe), but VERIFY."
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crreed1 Champion Author West Virginia Posts:2,005 Points:2,530,335 Joined:May 2005	Message Posted: Aug 31, 2012 11:19:11 PM Ignore crreed1 Report Abuse one company has been doing it for years 1965
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BeanoLI All-Star Author Long Island Posts:546 Points:734,985 Joined:Sep 2010	Message Posted: Aug 31, 2012 11:11:11 PM Ignore BeanoLI Report Abuse Should I believe this article ?
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