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At North Dakota’s Minot Air Force Base, efficiency is part of the mission

midwesternenergynews.com -- Oil and gas aren’t the only strategic resources buried beneath North Dakota.

Part of the country’s intercontinental ballistic missile supply is stored under constant watch in 15 remote, underground facilities scattered across the state. Until recently, the Air Force had to truck diesel heating fuel to each one of them throughout winter.

Today, those missile facilities are warmed instead with a renewable heat source: the ground.

The missile sites are among a few dozen buildings in North Dakota where the Air Force has installed ground source heat pumps, equipment that takes the constant, relatively warm temperatures found underground and circulates it through buildings.

It’s part of a wide-ranging energy initiative led by Lawrence Johnson, who has become one of the Air Force’s ef

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Submitted Oct 24, 2012 By: teafortwo

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LetemEatCake Champion Author Oklahoma City Posts:5,595 Points:1,202,085 Joined:Mar 2008	Message Posted: Oct 26, 2012 11:11:41 PM Ignore LetemEatCake Report Abuse Thanks for posting Teafortwo!
melvindale Champion Author Michigan Posts:1,438 Points:351,230 Joined:Jun 2011	Message Posted: Oct 26, 2012 9:49:17 AM Ignore melvindale Report Abuse Cool! Makes sense.
LetemEatCake Champion Author Oklahoma City Posts:5,595 Points:1,202,085 Joined:Mar 2008	Message Posted: Oct 25, 2012 11:55:10 PM Ignore LetemEatCake Report Abuse MAC48....Glad you brought up Root Cellars. Underground heat and cool air sources are really not a new thing as you stated. Payback is fairly quick and I am please to hear the AF is using this technology!
MAC48 Champion Author Dallas Posts:1,546 Points:763,345 Joined:Dec 2006	Message Posted: Oct 25, 2012 12:47:19 PM Ignore MAC48 Report Abuse Ground source heat pump technology has been available to the US consumer since the 1960s but the cost to retrofit an existing home used to be fairly expensive. The optimum time to put a ground source heat pump system in is when the home is being built while the contractor is already at the home site digging the water, sewer, natural gas and possibly the electric service trenches. If a home owner is facing the replacement of the existing heating or cooling unit or both units, a comparison of the cost of replacing the existing unit or units with new equipment versus the installation of a ground source heat pump system bears researching. A ground source heat pump simply uses forced air circulation within pipes or conduit placed under ground where the ground temperature is at a constant 68 or so degrees and supplements that constant underground temperature to get the return air up to a temperature that the user desires using either electric resistance heating or natural gas heating. Our forefathers used ground source cooling to preserve foods for centuries in what was known as root cellars where they stored potatoes, “canned” fruit and vegetables, herbs, smoked meats, etcetera.
PDQBlues Champion Author San Diego Posts:7,054 Points:1,444,325 Joined:Jan 2009	Message Posted: Oct 24, 2012 9:53:29 PM Ignore PDQBlues Report Abuse Discovery02: US Air Force is a great organization. The military is greatly interested in reducing its dependence of foriegn fossil fuels and outside energy for a very practical reason: our national defense.
lesndave Champion Author Texas Posts:3,022 Points:698,130 Joined:May 2011	Message Posted: Oct 24, 2012 9:46:40 PM Ignore lesndave Report Abuse Interesting
Ply440GTX All-Star Author Texas Posts:949 Points:309,730 Joined:Feb 2009	Message Posted: Oct 24, 2012 9:18:24 PM Ignore Ply440GTX Report Abuse Why not Minot?!?!?!?! Freezin's the reason!
Discovery02 Champion Author Colorado Springs Posts:2,520 Points:306,665 Joined:May 2012	Message Posted: Oct 24, 2012 4:46:04 PM Ignore Discovery02 Report Abuse US Air Force is a great organization. Hope that program doesn't get cut with the Sequestration Axe in January!!
hallows Champion Author St. Louis Posts:4,678 Points:2,800,620 Joined:Jun 2004	Message Posted: Oct 24, 2012 4:25:42 PM Ignore hallows Report Abuse Sounds like a good thing, now just need to come up with the money!
MopedTime All-Star Author Michigan Posts:759 Points:356,485 Joined:Mar 2012	Message Posted: Oct 24, 2012 4:16:04 PM Ignore MopedTime Report Abuse Wish we could use same technology for our own home. The cost probably is very high initially.
Bald1usa Veteran Author District of Columbia Posts:377 Points:845,120 Joined:Mar 2004	Message Posted: Oct 24, 2012 4:13:50 PM Ignore Bald1usa Report Abuse My neighbor installed one of these systems. Very expensive to install, but said it would pay for itself in less the 5 years. His "heating" and electric bill is down to less the $40 a month during the winter and summer seasons. He also, installed state of the art, solar panels, super insulated, and completely sealed the house.
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Gramps001 Champion Author North Carolina Posts:5,848 Points:1,364,135 Joined:Feb 2007	Message Posted: Oct 24, 2012 4:04:50 PM Ignore Gramps001 Report Abuse I thought military intelligence was an oxy moron...now substitute gov't for military and you got that right!
Ticobird Champion Author Huntsville Posts:3,215 Points:1,113,090 Joined:Oct 2009	Message Posted: Oct 24, 2012 4:03:02 PM Ignore Ticobird Report Abuse Innovation is essential to saving resources.
Brucevanf Champion Author New Brunswick Posts:1,341 Points:241,360 Joined:Aug 2012	Message Posted: Oct 24, 2012 4:02:09 PM Ignore Brucevanf Report Abuse This same source can give cooling in the summer
Brucevanf Champion Author New Brunswick Posts:1,341 Points:241,360 Joined:Aug 2012	Message Posted: Oct 24, 2012 4:01:02 PM Ignore Brucevanf Report Abuse Wow there is actually some Military Intelligence
Rajah Champion Author Illinois Posts:7,553 Points:2,303,695 Joined:Jul 2005	Message Posted: Oct 24, 2012 4:00:00 PM Ignore Rajah Report Abuse Geothermal heat pumps are great. Glad to see they're getting with using it in this application.
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boatcrazyinme Champion Author Maine Posts:1,923 Points:547,070 Joined:Apr 2010	Message Posted: Oct 24, 2012 3:52:43 PM Ignore boatcrazyinme Report Abuse they need to do more of this!
bell05 Champion Author Atlanta Posts:9,240 Points:1,872,935 Joined:Jun 2005	Message Posted: Oct 24, 2012 3:29:27 PM Ignore bell05 Report Abuse Somebody is thinking outside of the box.
TopGunn Champion Author Baltimore Posts:9,171 Points:2,613,355 Joined:Aug 2004	Message Posted: Oct 24, 2012 2:10:15 PM Ignore TopGunn Report Abuse And the northern snows won't delay heating fuel deliveries.
LtRTH Champion Author St. Louis Posts:1,758 Points:581,840 Joined:May 2011	Message Posted: Oct 24, 2012 2:03:02 PM Ignore LtRTH Report Abuse Well at least our military is trying to do it's part. God bless our military.
NorthglennBill Champion Author Denver Posts:7,417 Points:1,469,370 Joined:Oct 2008	Message Posted: Oct 24, 2012 2:02:59 PM Ignore NorthglennBill Report Abuse Being self sufficient is a good thing, especially when you are living in a missile silo.
fullauto Champion Author Reading Posts:5,305 Points:1,469,140 Joined:Apr 2008	Message Posted: Oct 24, 2012 2:01:51 PM Ignore fullauto Report Abuse geothermal cave cool
ScottTee Champion Author Detroit Posts:4,371 Points:1,059,695 Joined:Mar 2010	Message Posted: Oct 24, 2012 2:01:33 PM Ignore ScottTee Report Abuse what is the payback on that investment? or ROI?
slvrdo_dsprdo Champion Author Nashville Posts:4,681 Points:909,990 Joined:Jul 2008	Message Posted: Oct 24, 2012 1:58:33 PM Ignore slvrdo_dsprdo Report Abuse Cool. Or warm, as the case may be.
BobBG All-Star Author Albany Posts:820 Points:808,460 Joined:Nov 2005	Message Posted: Oct 24, 2012 1:57:23 PM Ignore BobBG Report Abuse Fowlcan, The price of gasolie is related to to the energy choices that all of us make including the government. If they were heating these facilities with oil or gas that would reduce the supply available for your ca and mine.
LarksNY Champion Author Albany Posts:1,389 Points:631,615 Joined:Jun 2006	Message Posted: Oct 24, 2012 1:55:20 PM Ignore LarksNY Report Abuse Awesome we save $10 here so we can throw away $100 somewhere else. Seems like logical math and budgeting.
snell snail Champion Author Atlanta Posts:5,008 Points:2,595,050 Joined:Feb 2004	Message Posted: Oct 24, 2012 1:55:17 PM Ignore snell snail Report Abuse ...interesting!...relevance?
Dennisjk Champion Author Detroit Posts:6,466 Points:1,921,450 Joined:Apr 2006	Message Posted: Oct 24, 2012 1:54:53 PM Ignore Dennisjk Report Abuse That's a cool technology but it's not cheap.
SandeeC Champion Author Ontario Posts:2,983 Points:459,505 Joined:Apr 2011	Message Posted: Oct 24, 2012 1:53:57 PM Ignore SandeeC Report Abuse I've read about people building homes underground or partially underground and how energy efficient they are so this makes perfect sense. And what I like most is that any money saved eventually means money taxpayers save. So good news all around.
gas_nipper Rookie Author Seattle Posts:36 Points:201,120 Joined:Apr 2011	Message Posted: Oct 24, 2012 1:52:25 PM Ignore gas_nipper Report Abuse my parents did this for their home years ago - big cost savings in all seasons!
hank1326 Champion Author Los Angeles Posts:8,899 Points:1,730,155 Joined:Jun 2008	Message Posted: Oct 24, 2012 1:49:34 PM Ignore hank1326 Report Abuse Good to know.
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seawolf33 Rookie Author Philadelphia Posts:85 Points:454,170 Joined:Jul 2011	Message Posted: Oct 24, 2012 1:48:10 PM Ignore seawolf33 Report Abuse Smart move by the Airforce
gasmack Champion Author Ventura Posts:1,696 Points:664,620 Joined:Feb 2011	Message Posted: Oct 24, 2012 1:46:30 PM Ignore gasmack Report Abuse Good news from an often overly stiff and inflexible segment of government. Thanks for the post.
joekool1 Champion Author Toledo Posts:1,099 Points:131,280 Joined:Sep 2012	Message Posted: Oct 24, 2012 1:40:33 PM Ignore joekool1 Report Abuse soon they will be forced to close so i guess this is no big deal
MJIOWA Champion Author Iowa Posts:4,808 Points:1,075,020 Joined:Nov 2009	Message Posted: Oct 24, 2012 1:37:54 PM Ignore MJIOWA Report Abuse i like it
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Spankster85 Champion Author Chicago Posts:1,709 Points:353,665 Joined:Nov 2011	Message Posted: Oct 24, 2012 1:33:45 PM Ignore Spankster85 Report Abuse Pretty cool and it'll save a little money too.
boldrph Champion Author Topeka Posts:18,359 Points:3,448,715 Joined:Oct 2002	Message Posted: Oct 24, 2012 1:32:53 PM Ignore boldrph Report Abuse what? another g'mint boonswaggle?
cbucka Veteran Author Los Angeles Posts:456 Points:418,360 Joined:Aug 2006	Message Posted: Oct 24, 2012 1:30:43 PM Ignore cbucka Report Abuse good info
fowlcan Champion Author Oklahoma City Posts:2,095 Points:681,340 Joined:Feb 2011	Message Posted: Oct 24, 2012 1:23:04 PM Ignore fowlcan Report Abuse How is this related to GAS Prices and this forum?
dbw03 Veteran Author Huntsville Posts:375 Points:353,805 Joined:Feb 2008	Message Posted: Oct 24, 2012 1:22:22 PM Ignore dbw03 Report Abuse Makes sense, after the initial investment you get a lot of years of "relatively free" constant temperature heat source.
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gasper Champion Author Edmonton Posts:4,480 Points:1,367,335 Joined:Mar 2002	Message Posted: Oct 24, 2012 1:19:50 PM Ignore gasper Report Abuse Thermal energy from the ground is not a miracle find it is a technology from many years ago not new idea.
Hugo40 Champion Author Kentucky Posts:7,614 Points:1,615,055 Joined:Aug 2008	Message Posted: Oct 24, 2012 1:19:25 PM Ignore Hugo40 Report Abuse Underground has always been warmer.